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Sunday, February 26, 2017

John's religious speech

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and this post, John's religious speech
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John's speech
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The Bible is the most read book in the entire world, most religious people believe that it is the word of God. But today there are some people that think that it is only a religious book written my man. It is for sure the Israelite history and religious book. Here we could ask, how much it is God's word we don't know. Anyhow this is what some people believe.  

John's speech
Dear readers, this post is the continuation of our last post, our religious discussions, where we were about to hear what John was going to say, so, let us continue:     
And this is what John said.
Dear friends, you know already why I am here, but let me explain anyhow.
As some of you already know, I have been following up a few religions for a while, just to find out whether to be religious and follow this or that religion is the right thing to do for me. But, this could apply to myself and to any of us here as well. If we ask ourselves, what is the best way to go about believing and following a religion? Which one of these existing religions could be the right religion for us all? You see I have asked myself many times these questions; so, I have some good ideas about religions today. 
So, let me tell you my present beliefs. As you all know in this part of the world most religions are Christian in origin and they have sprung from the Bible in one way or another, so, I believe that following what is written in the Bible is the right way to go, as most people seem to be happy to do that.
Therefore, after having studied a few religions I came to the conclusion that they are more or less all the same; so, I dare say that perhaps the best thing for anybody is to stay with the religion your parents have taught you, but really it is up to you what you want to do.
Now, let me come to today’s’ religious task. Mark and Gino here have come to me, they talked to me and told me about you Frank, and what you have intention to do. During our talks as a religious believer I became concerned. So, because I became concerned for this reason, I am here today to tell you about my concerns, so, I am here to talk about these concerns of mine, in order to help you to make the right decision once you have heard what I have to say.
Recently I was with a religious group, where we had a discussion about Revelation, a few members were not happy about these great tribulations in Revelation, and also, other things expressed in the Bible Revelation, so, they were looking for other explanations, or perhaps another way out that would be less demanding on humanity.
To cut a long story short, one of the members who was there pointed out to us, that we could do nothing at all about it, as the Bible itself warns us that it should not be changed. So, this bloke took the Bible and read the very end of Revelation which says the following. Here, I am going to quote from the Bible the same way as he did.
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Reading the end of the Bible
Here John took his Bible and read.
REVELATION
EPILOGUE
22-16- I Jesus, have sent my angel to make these revelations to you for the sake of the churches. I am of David’s line, the root of David and the bright star of the morning.
17- The Spirit and the Bride say, ‘Come’. Let everyone who listens answer, ‘Come’. Then let all who are thirsty come: all who want it may have the water of life, and have it free.
18- This is my solemn warning to all who hear the prophecies in this book: if anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him every plague mentioned in the book;
19- if anyone cuts anything out of the prophecies in this book, God will cut off his share of the tree of life and of the holy city, which are described in the book.
20- The one who guaranties these revelations repeats his promise: I shall indeed be with you soon. Amen; come, Lord Jesus.
21- May the grace of the Lord Jesus be with you all. Amen.
(End of quote from Bible)
This is how, The Jerusalem Bible, ends.
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Now, let us talk about this meeting that we had with Mark, Gino and John:
When John closed the Bible and said:
Now you can see for yourself, why I was concerned and wanted to let you know what my views and beliefs are on these religious matters; so that, you would be aware how I see these religious issues.
Therefore, know that I have said what I wanted to say to you, I feel better already, because the decision will be yours, if you want to go ahead and do what you want to do by reviewing what is written in the Bible, or hear and heed the warning in the last chapter of the Bible, and therefore, stop just like everybody else has stopped for about 2000 years, as they have been scared from that warning. What do you say now?
I know, ‘I said to John’, your warning from the Bible sounds threatening indeed, so, I will take it into consideration and thanks for the advice you have given me. I will think about it.
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Discussing Revelation and John's reading
Anyhow, now that John has given us his personal advice about Revelation, let us discuss what would be wise to do about it, since it looks like that before we do anything we will have to learn a lot more about this Bible warning that John has read to us, and therefore, I am not going to rush into doing anything, unless we discuss it first properly. So, I would like to discuss this matter a bit more with my friends here Mark and Gino just to see what they think about it.
Then, I turned to Gino and Mark and asked them: What do you think about John’s Bible warning? I would like to hear your opinion on this warning that he has read to us, therefore, if you have anything to say you can start saying it right away now.
Mark’s reply:
Well, what John has brought up sounds very serious to me, and I dare say that perhaps you Frank have to moderate most of your religious ideology, so that, it does not change anything that is said in the Bible, in other words whatever you are going to say about this issue, it should not contest the Bible scriptures. Here I want also to say to you. Look Frank! Lots of generations have gone past and they have all accepted the Bible and also Revelation just the way they are. So, I don’t know why you see it in a different way?
Therefore, I would like to suggest that we study first the Bible a bit longer, in the hope that we understand this issue better, before you do anything about this matter. What do you say to my request? Would you agree to study the Bible with us for a while yet before you make any decision?
We all said yes to Mark’s request saying, we agree with you that we need to study the Bible a lot more, before we make our decision and start saying anything about the Bible openly.
Then I added, but I would like to know also what Gino personally thinks about John’s warning and everything else? So, Gino tell us what you think about this Bible discussion and warning that John has talked about? I would like to know that because, I am sure that you have your own way of seeing these religious things.
Gino’s reply:
I am glad you asked. I have to say that I agree with Mark, when he says that we should really study this religious situation before we do anything; I want also to say that I was partly surprised about the way of John’s interpretation of the Bible. Because I believe that there may be another meaning to this sinister Bible warning, for me it does not add up properly, so, let me explain.
For me, I have always seen Our Lord Jesus Christ as a very friendly person; so, I was a bit surprised to hear all that change in Revelation. What makes me think this disagreement is the way which Jesus’ angel tells the writer what to write; and it is also the way the angel is saying it. You see, I have always believed that Jesus was a very amicable person: but here his message through the angel sounds very harsh and he issues threatening warnings, here Jesus seems completely changed, Jesus sounds more like God Yahweh than Jesus. So, I believe that there are several meanings in those writings, and I would say that we should investigate and proceed with caution.
Me to Gino- Gino! What do you mean by proceed with caution?
Gino to me- What else can you do? You can’t rush things in a situation like this. You may have to read the Bible once or twice more from the beginning until the very end; or at least all the new Testament to find the meaning of what has been said, and then and only then, you may be in a position to decide what to talk about.
Mark said- Frank, I believe Gino is right and we should not rush things, take your time man! There is plenty of time to do what you want to do.
Then, if it is God’s will that you have to write these religious writings, God will make sure that you will find enough time and also the right way how to do it?
Now, since we have already spent a great deal of time on this religious task, I suggest that we adjourn the meeting for another time. So, let us enjoy ourselves the usual way before we have to depart our own way, in order to do what we usually do. This is how my friends concluded their answer to my request.
I believe that I have said enough in this post, as today average readers don’t like long articles, so, I will continue to have my say next time about the Bible and Revelation. See you soon.
May god bless us all.
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